Canned or what you tell me

[fishfood]

As you know i have been an active member on the three forums since they started offering advice and helping where i can
Last night i put a post on Garys forum congratulating him and Crusty [Paul Veitch ] that since Wilson Leonards paper was published they have been good boys not[ nit picking ]
I also mentioned that you don't see Holden and ford pulling each others car to bits
Also i said if you had a product you thought was best[ Garrys Baby Q and Crustys commercial setup ] push it
Ps dont tell Gary my new trout system is like his baby Q setup
Also i would liked to have seen the finnished setup that Crusty is doing
I received an email

I've just deleted your most recent post.

You will have read where I have requested that people who want to take personal issue with me (or other forum members) will have to do so by PM. but this is the most open forum in the world

You're correct......I have taken a decision not to react to the BS that Murray and his crew hand out......and I'm not allowing others to dish it it out on APHQ either.

Just for the record......I'll never stop commenting on the technical aspects of aquaponics.

You need to be a bit more objective.......I've been copping crap from others for years

My advice is that, if you don't like what I write, you don't have to read it.

Regards.....Gary
So if that is what you get from the most open forum in the world sorry i am out of there

[Castaway]

For the admin of the "most open forum in the world" his people skills could do with a lot of improvement....he's now going on about aquaponic "fundamentalists"...whoever they are...
Hey Fish Food welcome to the club....
What colour is your Burka? Mines blue with fish patterns on it...

[Mantis]

Hi, my name is Richard, and I'm a fundamentalist. Yes , I CHOP

[RupertofOZ]

The bull****, back flipping and revision of history by GD is legendary... and seems to be becoming even sillier...

A recent thread post by "Gary D" ... "Fundamentalism in Aquaponics" ... seems actually to contain posts, or part of posts by "DaveOponics"...

http://www.aquaponicshq.com/forums/s...ll=1#post26012

So I can only surmise that "DaveOponics" is also under "moderation".... and that "selected" parts of his posts are being published at GD's whim....

It appears that dissenting opinion is still not tolerated on th APHQ site...

Not unusual for the "most open forum in the world".... which is sad, because having recently opened the forum to public view, and endorsing aspects of other peoples arguments and recommendations, like Dr Lennards tool.... it seemed to be a major step forward... and an indication of a degree of "reconcilation"...

I'm at a lose to understand how, after endorsing the tool provided by Dr. Lennard, which basically demonstrates that the long held view that flood & drain media based aquaponic systems... stocked to a maximum of 30kg/1000m3... with appropriate filtration capacity, of a minumum 2:1 ratio... work, with out the need for solids removal.... "in perpetuity"...

Can somehow be construed as a "vindication" of Gary's postulated "long held views".... rather than a complete repudiation...

As to Gary's claimed "long held views"... and other revisions of history.... well, frankly IMO... he is being dis-ingenuous... at best...

[ian]

A recent thread post by "Gary D" ... "Fundamentalism in Aquaponics" ... seems actually to contain posts, or part of posts by "DaveOponics"...

http://www.aquaponicshq.com/forums/s...ll=1#post26012

Look, I don't mean to be "mean" but this latest thread by Gaz on his own forum, where he does a Kevin Rudd, asks his own questions and then answers them, does seem a bit strange.
I know it's supposed to be humorous, but it just seems a bit "off". Still, I suppose it's one way of answering critisism etc.

Sorry about the deletion FF, in another thread you are refered to as " the Esteemed member from Victoria" . . . go figure!

Cheers IanK

[DaveOponic]

For the admin of the "most open forum in the world" his people skills could do with a lot of improvement....he's now going on about aquaponic "fundamentalists"...whoever they are...
Hey Fish Food welcome to the club....
What colour is your Burka? Mines blue with fish patterns on it...

Gary Gary Quite Contrary
How does your garden grow?
With shallow posts and fascist hosts
and wicking beds all in a row.

Call a Dr ....
I think my stocking density's down
Couldn't get out of my shallow bed
pH was up.... voices in my head
a flood of posts to be deleted
Now my magnesium's depleted
the fundaMENTALists are flooding my drain
what's that hurt that's in my brain?

Did I myth something?
a calculation of solid waste?
chop and change my crusty mate
how i wish i was in business
baby Q has found no interest
What am I going to do?
All alone in APHQ!

[fishfood]

Classic dave

[Murray]

I really don't know how to comment.

We all should know by now that this will only inspire another round of hostilities. There is never likely to be any real change in the way things are carried out over there. It has been like this for the last two years, particularly since I left APHQ and started this forum.

People are best to vote with their feet.

Even the "most esteemed FF" has copped a slug in the neck....so what hope the rest of us.....

And yes Dave, there are heaps of Americans joining this forum particularly since I went to the US. Lots of folk here that talk about Tilapia.

Perhaps we should all leave it there.

[Castaway]

I don't think you can say you are neutral now Dave. I'd say you have burnt your bridges over at APHQ! But I do like the last two lines of your poem.

"What am I going to do?
All alone in APHQ!"

Gary needs to realize that his forum is not all about him. Its about marshaling a community of individuals to share their knowledge and tolerate opposing views. Out of that energy, new ideas originate that foster growth. By shedding experienced and respected members like Fish Food and you Dave and others all I see is a withering of a great potential. But hey - who cares right?
Gary's loss is Murray's gain. They all come here to learn something anyway. Right? Even Gary turns up as a guest quite regularly.

[DaveOponic]

Looks like I have been booted from Aquaponics HQ. Ah... the power of simple prose.....